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Jubble and the Art of Bad Ideas

Friday, December 1st, 2006

I was just sent a Flickr Mail from an individual who seemingly represents jubble.com. Here is a partial excerpt.

“Can we show your outstanding animal pictures on our website?  We are putting together the most outstanding animal pictures available on the internet to create digital collection albums.  We would love to have this photo of your flickr portfolio on our website and be part of a jubble collection album.  Would you support us with our new idea and upload your outstanding animal shots?  Once your picture is part of a jubble collection album you will earn money every time your picture is collected!”

So I checked out the details on their website (link to details):

“Once your picture has been selected by the Jubble jury you are in! Every time your picture has been collected and ends up in the jubble collection albums, your jubble account will be credited with $0.025 per picture. At the end of every quarter, jubble will pay out the credit built up in your account (minimum pay-out sum is $50). If your quarterly balance is lower than $50, your credit will stay in your account until it reaches the $50 limit and will be paid out at the end of that quarter. Jubble will pay you through Paypal only. You have to make sure that you have a paypal account and that your account information holds the address of your Paypal account. Providing us with your Paypal account information is optional and can be done at anytime you feel comfortable (e.g. 3 months after signing up as a jubble member). Since our website has not been launched yet, we think this will make you feel more comfortable, so you can wait and see how our website works and you do not have to disclose any personal financial information to us right now.”

So let’s do the math here. My one photo that they want would have to be added to an album four times to get one penny. 400 times to get a dollar. To get to that minimum of $50, 20,000 users would have to add my photo to their collection.

How many users does this service think its going to pull? They won’t ever have to pay anyone because they won’t get 20,000 users (any time soon at least). This doesn’t seem like the type of viral app that everyone will be using in two years.

Until that happens, they’re going to have to come up with more than a quarter of a penny for me to hand over the rights to my photos.

EDIT: $.025 is 2.5 cents per view, not a quarter of a penny. This means 40 views for a dollar and 2000 views for 50 dollars. Sorry for being unfair to Jubble on the miscalculation.

More Web 2.0 Wrath

Wednesday, June 7th, 2006

A blogger’s friend lost her SideKick II in an NYC cab. The individuals that found it are being low lifes about the situation. When faced with an offer for a reward, the low lifes have refused, responding instead with threats of physical violence and other such intimidation. Queue up the Web 2.0 Wrath music!!!

The blogger put up a page on his website (go to page) to showcase the injustice his friend is going through. He has had very little (if any) sleep since the ordeal began yesterday. His website has been flooded with traffic from many places (mostly Digg). What chance do the low lifes have?

If you look at the folks at PriceRitePhoto.com, which I wrote about in a previous post, they have very little chance. The only difference is that they are individuals, and not a commercial entity. Based on T-Mobile’s records and logs taken from T-Mobile’s servers, the individuals know who the low lifes are and where they live.

The blogger has posted links to the low lifes MySpace accounts. I am assuming that the low lifes have been thoroughly harassed by the blogging community because one of them has taken down his account. It seems like they are getting lots of nasty feedback because on one of the MySpace profiles, one of the low lifes has lashed out against the e-mails that have been sent to him and the comments that have been left on his account.

How do I see this panning out? Hopefully the police will deal with it in a civil manner. Hopefully the low lifes have enough decency to return the Sidekick. It is in their best interest to avoid the legal system here (the girl who apparently is in possession of the phone is also the 16-year-old mother of an infant). She may or may not have a 24-26 year-old boyfriend who may or may not be the father of the child. They don’t need that type of attention toward their personal lives.

It is amazing to see how the blogging community gets behind people that they don’t know. The blogger mentioned that a police officer (who saw the story on another blog) contacted him to give him advice as to how to handle it. Blogging connects people all over the world without having to traverse the traditional pathways that they would normally have to take. Instead of the blogger having to work through the bureaucracy of a local police station, someone with the right information came straight to him. This is the same way that blogging empowers people in some types of large companies. They connect today’s knowledge workers.

Web 2.0 Wrath

Tuesday, January 10th, 2006

In late November of 2005, I was thoroughly impressed by the power of the digg community when they stood up for a wronged photographer and blogger named Thomas Hawk. This photographer found himself in a skeevey bait-and-switch deal (read original blog post). The short story is that this Brooklyn based company had a history of intimidating customers into buying more accessories to cover the loss they take on the camera bodies and other primary equipment. When the blog post made it onto digg, the community was outraged and reacted by flooding the company’s website, phone system, and e-mail services in a distributed denial of service attack. The company really crossed the wrong guy in this case. Read the entire post, it’s really good. You will get mad at the way they had treated people in the past and managed to get away with it.

I was excited by the power and swiftness with which this web vigilante group fought for Thomas Hawk. I talked about it with Bill Crosbie, one of my professors. While he was outraged over how a company could utilize these mafia scare tactics and still be in business, he was still wary of the vigilante tactics used by the digg community to retaliate. I was so impressed with the idea of vigilante justice on the web that I didn’t really see his point of view at the time. I saw it as a way to quickly weed out companies like priceritephoto. Today, I see his point.

Yesterday there was a similar digg debacle. Steve Mallett, a writer for the illustrious publisher O’Reilly was accused of stealing the code on which digg runs for use on a few of his own websites (linuxfilter.com, iTuneslove.com). The digg user ’steveexposed’, who obviously created a new account under which to post this story, even created a custom blogspot blog to show users all of the ‘facts’ (read original post). This story quickly went up the digg charts to the front page. At the time of writing this story, there are 2,835 diggs on the story, which was posted just over 24 hours ago. For those of you who don’t know, that’s a lot of diggs for one day.

This unknown user’s research unfortunately didn’t include the fact that Steve’s websites were based on pligg, an open-source version of digg’s engine. This is where the story begins to get slippery. Pligg is based on meneame.net, which is actually a partial rip-off of digg. Apparently the developers of pligg knew that meneame was influenced by digg, but they did not know that some of the code was taken directly from digg. Pligg is offered as open-source software, and as such claims the same integrity that is practiced by the rest of the open-source community.

So in this case, no harm came to Steve’s servers; the community seems to have realized that it was poor research before it was too late. However, there is something to be said about Steve Mallett’s reputation. He has been wrongfully accused of stealing someone’s original work. The digg community has realized this today, thanks partly to an article by Nathan Torkington on O’Reilly Radar (read original post). This story has also made it to the front page of digg, and has over 1700 diggs at the moment, but we can’t assume that everyone knows that Mallett is innocent. Ignorance in numbers is frightening to me.

So in the case of priceritephoto.com, this Web 2.0 vigilantism is seemingly a good thing; keeping people accountable for their actions. Is it unethical, perhaps…but so was priceritephoto.com’s conduct. Illegal? It would most likely be held in court as such. But in this instance where Steve Mallett’s character came into contention over hasty research, it is a horrible example of ignorance in numbers; the blind following the blind. This unknown blogger owes Steve Mallett a public apology.

If this type of vigilantism is seemingly good in some cases, and downright irresponsible in others, perhaps we should come to realize that these types of things should be left to the proper channels to deal with instead of taking it upon ourselves to make things right (or wrong).

In other vigilante news today, eBaumsworld.com vs. YTMND. This post on vitalsecurity.org seems to go over the issues pretty well (read original post). Essentially, the YTMND community along with a few other website communities have taken it upon themselves to fight back at eBaumsworld over habitual copyright infringement. eBaumsworld in the past has had less than great integrity regarding copyright. They even leeched a piece of software from Sega earlier this month. Besides the copyright infringement, in this case they even managed to reap the benefits of the incoming advertising dollars without paying for the bandwidth (tab picked up by Sega).

The funny thing is that this is all over a Lindsay Lohan image set, which since the infringement has been amended to reflect a copyright by the author.

Now if eBaumsworld had a better reputation, I think this mistake would have been forgiven. But they have consistently stepped on other artists’ toes to further their own gains. The community’s distaste with eBaumsworld came to a head last night and the vigilantes managed to shut down eBaumworlds’s forums.

I personally don’t agree with what eBaumsworld has done in this case, and in many other cases. There is a great Wikipedia article on their exploits (see article) which has been temporarily been frozen due to recent vandalism. Their history has shown that they don’t play by the rules and that is unacceptable. They remind me of the priceritephoto.com people in many ways.

Here is another case where vigilante justice is seemingly good. But if this type of action forms a new paradigm that is widely acceptable, it will not be good for the Internet as an entity. If it becomes commonplace for a relatively small group of people to crash a server because they do not agree with what it stands for, then the integrity of the Internet steps down to the integrity of organized crime.