Jubble and the Art of Bad Ideas

I was just sent a Flickr Mail from an individual who seemingly represents jubble.com. Here is a partial excerpt.

“Can we show your outstanding animal pictures on our website?  We are putting together the most outstanding animal pictures available on the internet to create digital collection albums.  We would love to have this photo of your flickr portfolio on our website and be part of a jubble collection album.  Would you support us with our new idea and upload your outstanding animal shots?  Once your picture is part of a jubble collection album you will earn money every time your picture is collected!”

So I checked out the details on their website (link to details):

“Once your picture has been selected by the Jubble jury you are in! Every time your picture has been collected and ends up in the jubble collection albums, your jubble account will be credited with $0.025 per picture. At the end of every quarter, jubble will pay out the credit built up in your account (minimum pay-out sum is $50). If your quarterly balance is lower than $50, your credit will stay in your account until it reaches the $50 limit and will be paid out at the end of that quarter. Jubble will pay you through Paypal only. You have to make sure that you have a paypal account and that your account information holds the address of your Paypal account. Providing us with your Paypal account information is optional and can be done at anytime you feel comfortable (e.g. 3 months after signing up as a jubble member). Since our website has not been launched yet, we think this will make you feel more comfortable, so you can wait and see how our website works and you do not have to disclose any personal financial information to us right now.”

So let’s do the math here. My one photo that they want would have to be added to an album four times to get one penny. 400 times to get a dollar. To get to that minimum of $50, 20,000 users would have to add my photo to their collection.

How many users does this service think its going to pull? They won’t ever have to pay anyone because they won’t get 20,000 users (any time soon at least). This doesn’t seem like the type of viral app that everyone will be using in two years.

Until that happens, they’re going to have to come up with more than a quarter of a penny for me to hand over the rights to my photos.

EDIT: $.025 is 2.5 cents per view, not a quarter of a penny. This means 40 views for a dollar and 2000 views for 50 dollars. Sorry for being unfair to Jubble on the miscalculation.

2 Responses to “Jubble and the Art of Bad Ideas”

  1. Bill Says:

    Dude - did you leave out a zero? if it is $.0025 then the 4 views for a penny is correct. if it is as written, $.025 then it is 2.5 cents/view or 40 views to the dollar. I slightly more attractive option.

  2. markus Says:

    dear jesse,
    i am this individual who seemingly represents jubble.com. my name is markus hummel and i am the founder of jubble. i thank you for your blog entry and for the opportunity to put some things in the right spot. i understand your scepticism because jubble is something totally new and we have not started our website yet. but what is so bad about starting an internet startup and trying to involve as many people as possible? this is all what web 2.0 is about. to clarify the maths: we charge our users with $0.1 per picture and pass 25% of that along to the people who provide the picture. quite a fair deal to me. if you can show me any stockimage site on the web that gives you a better ratio i would be more than happy to get that info (the ratio with istockphoto.com is 5%). and since we are a startup we can not throw around with big checks. and if our jubble idea gets popular on the web it will be not to your disadvantage. let’s put the math like this: we have 100,000 users putting your photo in a jubble collection album. that is $ 2,500 for your wallet. for me quite a chunk of money. why don’t we let the market decide if it likes jubble or not. let’s check back in 6 month. i hope we will be able to receive your foto uploads. i guess there is nothing to loose or risk for you. just give it a try. by the way: we will launch our website officially on january 12th. don’t miss out on it!
    thanks for your time.
    markus
    ceo & founder
    www.jubble.com

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